Te Matua - Te Tamaiti - Practise in the presence of our history. Nā, Trina Baggett.
Introduction
He Tohu is presented by Archives New Zealand Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga and the National Library of New Zealand Te Puna Mātauranga o Aotearoa, both of which are part of the Department of Internal Affairs.
Excerpts from this interview with Moana Jackson, constitutional lawyer, appear in kōrero which are part of the He Tohu exhibition "The Treaty to me has never been about Treaty rights, it’s always been about the rightness that comes from people accepting their obligations to each other."
We highly recommend watching all of this interview, way too many pounamu of wisdom shared throughout to try and capture in a paragraph.
He aha/What: This lessons adds another layer of whaakaro to He Wakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni and Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
Whāinga/Aim: To reflect and extend your own understanding of He Wakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni and Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
Wā/Time: 40.36 minutes
Below is the timing of the interview questions.
0.00 – 5.12 You recently gave evidence in the Paparahi o Te Raki claim. How did you evidence relate to He Whakaputanga and Te Tiriti?
5.12 – 7.00 The Western powers, Britain, France and the United States, all accepted He Whakaputanga as a Declaration of Independence. Could there have been a treaty without that acceptance?
7.00 – 13.03 How did your own people (Ngāti Kahungunu) decide whether or not to sign the Treaty?
13.03 – 14.54 You have developed, along with Margaret Mutu, a framework for a new and inclusive Constitution for Māori and Pākehā. How did Iwi all over the country relate this discussion to He Whakaputanga and the Treaty?
14.54 – 17.11 Did Māori surrender their Sovereignty in signing the Treaty?
17.11 – 20.19 So, in your mind, what did the Treaty mean?
20.19 – 25.58 When you consider the difference between Western world view and Māori world view … are we ever going to be on the same page?
25.58 - 28.29 How long do you think it will take for Pākehā New Zealanders to fully understand the concepts of Tikanga and Mana Motuhake that define Maori.
28.29 - 34.35 Why aren't we educating our young citizens about the Land Wars and the disenfranchisement of Māori?
34.35 - 36.24 As immigration increase and Māori become a smaller proportion of our population, how does the Treaty continue to be relevant?
36.24 - 40.36 Corporate, anti-intellectual and neo-liberal policies in New Zealand have created a 'brown poverty'. We are a long way from the optimistic vision you hold, surely?
➡️ Next: Wai 262 Film 2006